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why is that more effective than the nra proposal to put armed guards in every school? >> well in the first place, 1/3 of america's public schools does have armed guards. secondly, there were armed guards at columbine, they couldn't stop the shooters. so, the question comes, what do we do about the growing sophistication of military weapons on the streets of our cities? they aren't good hunting weapons, no hunter worth their salt would use an assault weapon to hunt, and, what we'd do is take the earlier bill and strengthen it in many ways, prevent the gun manufacturers, from getting around it as they did. go to a one physical characteristic test and take specific models and ban mayor manufacture, sale and transfer and take the weapons that are grandfathered, that are in possession now, and put them under the federal firearms act. so that they would be licensed, there would be background checks down. america has to bite the bullet of what these incidents mean to our people, to our nation, and our nation's standing in the world. when you have someone walking in and flayin
why is that more effective than the nra proposal to put armed guards in every school? >> well in the first place, 1/3 of america's public schools does have armed guards. secondly, there were armed guards at columbine, they couldn't stop the shooters. so, the question comes, what do we do about the growing sophistication of military weapons on the streets of our cities? they aren't good hunting weapons, no hunter worth their salt would use an assault weapon to hunt, and, what we'd do is...
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>> nra supports what works. we have supported prison building, supported projects where every time you catch a criminal with a gun, a drug dealer with a gun, a violent felon with a gun, you prosecutor them 1 sh00% of the time. if you want to control violent criminals, take them off the streets. we supported instant check systems, getting the records into the instant check system. >> even the instant check system has huge holes just like the mental health registry. >> the biggest single hole right now if you're a felon and you walk into a gun store and you try to buy a gun and they go, oh, you're a felon and we're going to turn you do, they let you walk out and they don't prosecute you. it's like bonnie and clyde. it like clyde goes in and tries to buy a gun. he goes back to bonnie and said i got bad news, they didn't sell me a gun. the good news is they let me go, they didn't do anything to me. they go about and commit their crime. >> is senator feinstein's bill to revive the assault weapon ban going to pass? >>
>> nra supports what works. we have supported prison building, supported projects where every time you catch a criminal with a gun, a drug dealer with a gun, a violent felon with a gun, you prosecutor them 1 sh00% of the time. if you want to control violent criminals, take them off the streets. we supported instant check systems, getting the records into the instant check system. >> even the instant check system has huge holes just like the mental health registry. >> the...
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would the nra be prepared to help financially? is it a budgetary matter feasible? would federal grants be necessary to provide this kind of fire power? >> we have all kinds of foreign aid we do. my gosh, we're doing $2 billion to train the police in iraq right now. with all the money in the federal budget, if we can't come up to do this, there's something wrong. we fund the child safety program right now as a model of the school for kids too young to be around guns. it teaches them if you see a gun, stop, leave the area. we have child accidents down to the lowest level ever in history. >> here's something you said on friday that struck me because this is really the nub of the argument about armed security. what if when adam lanza started shooting his way into sandy hook elementary school last friday he'd been confronted by qualified armed security? will you at least admit it's possible that 26 little kids, that 26 innocent lives might have been spared that day? is it so abhorrent to you that you'd rather continue to risk the alternative? >> because that's your stan
would the nra be prepared to help financially? is it a budgetary matter feasible? would federal grants be necessary to provide this kind of fire power? >> we have all kinds of foreign aid we do. my gosh, we're doing $2 billion to train the police in iraq right now. with all the money in the federal budget, if we can't come up to do this, there's something wrong. we fund the child safety program right now as a model of the school for kids too young to be around guns. it teaches them if you...
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the nra will. we fund the child safety program right now as a model for the schools for kids too young to be around guns. it teaches them if you see a gun, stop, don't touch them. we have child accidents down to the lowest level ever in u.s. history. >> here's something you said on friday that struck me because i think this is really the nub of the argument about armed security. >> what if when adam lanza started shooting his way into sandy hook elementary school last friday he'd been confronted by qualified armed security? will you at least admit it's possible that 26 little kids, the 26 innocent lives might have been spared that day? is it so abhorrent to you that you would rather consider to risk the alternative. >> that's your standard, that fewer people should be killed. that's the goal here and the standard here is if it's possible, your words, if it's possible that lives could be shared, shouldn't we try that, that's the standard, isn't it? >> my standard is this. you can't legislation moral
the nra will. we fund the child safety program right now as a model for the schools for kids too young to be around guns. it teaches them if you see a gun, stop, don't touch them. we have child accidents down to the lowest level ever in u.s. history. >> here's something you said on friday that struck me because i think this is really the nub of the argument about armed security. >> what if when adam lanza started shooting his way into sandy hook elementary school last friday he'd...
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you are watching live here a press conference with the nra. as you can see, a manner -- a banner was held up by cold pink -- >> killing our children, not armed teachers. we gotta end the arming and end the violence! >> a protesters there interrupting the nra executive director, wayne la pierre who was talking about the -- what he calls the most important issue we face, how to protect our children right now. he says points out that -- he points out that banks, sports arenas -- >> the truth is -- >> it sown sounds like he's -- it sounds like he's leaning in the direction of governor perry of providing armed security in the schools. we're gonna continue to monitor this press conference being held here and if and if there are new developments we'll bring them to you. he did acknowledge -- the nra is rather vocal where there's been violence like this, they have been silent. >>> 8:08. wet weather moving into the bay area could have a significant effect on flights at bay area airports. ktvu channel 2 reporter allie rasmus is live at sfo with informat
you are watching live here a press conference with the nra. as you can see, a manner -- a banner was held up by cold pink -- >> killing our children, not armed teachers. we gotta end the arming and end the violence! >> a protesters there interrupting the nra executive director, wayne la pierre who was talking about the -- what he calls the most important issue we face, how to protect our children right now. he says points out that -- he points out that banks, sports arenas --...
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the nra had stopped tweeting. and it also took down its facebook page on friday, just one day after it celebrated a milestone of 1.7 million likes. there are signs that the nra might be losing a script on washington. nra member and senator joe manchin now says he's rethinking his positions on gun control. but as dave weigal points out, the nra habit lost any gun legislation since 1999. the five republicans who voted aye are all gone and al gore's tie breaking aye became a focus of the nra's campaign against him. and just somedays before the slaughter at sandy hook elementary, the nra was actively fear mongering over gun laws. an nra spokesman told the washington examiner on december 5th that the organization was preparing to battle with the president. we're not optimistic. we're planning for the worst. we've told people to plan for gun bans and a supreme court stacked with anti-gun judges. the president has a variety of options and a disposal we don't take any of them for granted. let's turn to mark glaze. he's di
the nra had stopped tweeting. and it also took down its facebook page on friday, just one day after it celebrated a milestone of 1.7 million likes. there are signs that the nra might be losing a script on washington. nra member and senator joe manchin now says he's rethinking his positions on gun control. but as dave weigal points out, the nra habit lost any gun legislation since 1999. the five republicans who voted aye are all gone and al gore's tie breaking aye became a focus of the nra's...
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they had a lot of backlash against the nra. this time they're much more careful about how they're handling their public relations campaign. these tough guys in the nra who are always talking about their principles, where are they now defending them when they're unpopular. if they really believe in these principles, it's the most important time to defend them publicly is when they're under attack and despite their unpopularity you still believe in them. >> cenk: that's a great point, michael. there is one guy fighting aggressively, mayor bloomberg in new york. >> it's time for the president i think, to stand up and lead and tell this country what we should do. not go to congress and say what do you guys want to do? this should be his number one agenda. he's the president of the united states. and if he does nothing during his second term, something like 48,000 americans will be killed with illegal guns. that is roughly the number of americans killed in the whole vietnam war. >> cenk: well, mayor bloomberg seems to be indisputabl
they had a lot of backlash against the nra. this time they're much more careful about how they're handling their public relations campaign. these tough guys in the nra who are always talking about their principles, where are they now defending them when they're unpopular. if they really believe in these principles, it's the most important time to defend them publicly is when they're under attack and despite their unpopularity you still believe in them. >> cenk: that's a great point,...
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>> well, i'm not going to speak for the nra on that issue. >> don't you speak for the nra? i'm just a little confused. you don't work for the nra? they don't pay you? >> i'm an independent consultant for the nra designed to focus on school safety. that is my mission. now, what i will say in terms of further gun control legislation is that that is the wrong part of the debate. i think the focus should be on school safety. you can have bans on assault weapons or whatever weapons you wish, and it's not going to protect from a violent person. it's going to take someone who has security in the school. timothy mcveigh used fertilizer as his weapon. so let's not focus on the weapon as much as our response capability and safety of the children. that's simply my responsibility, and that's what i'm going to do and we're going to take the best experts in across the country to give these options to the schools. >> without speaking for the nra, do you personally think that there is any place for further restrictions on guns, particularly these high capacity guns? >> that's a debate that
>> well, i'm not going to speak for the nra on that issue. >> don't you speak for the nra? i'm just a little confused. you don't work for the nra? they don't pay you? >> i'm an independent consultant for the nra designed to focus on school safety. that is my mission. now, what i will say in terms of further gun control legislation is that that is the wrong part of the debate. i think the focus should be on school safety. you can have bans on assault weapons or whatever weapons...
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and it's not reality and the nra and the leadership of the nra is built on myth. i would not have guessed that anybody who of diminished credibility could do more than what wayne lapierre did friday. average folks like cory said, average folks know you have to do something about this and know how comprehensive. i live in texas. i own five guns and all the folks i associate with when you go out hunting you take your guns and you put them if a safe and everybody goes to bed. it's the wild west everybody talks about the wild west, the wild west, almost every part of the wild west you check your guns at the door before you walk in somewhere in a wild west town is the way it used to be. i worked for senator bentsen. he represented texas. he helped pass the assault weapons ban. though it may not solve the problem, i expected wayne lapierre, i actually expected wayne lapierre to stand up and say exactly what he said and then say oh by the way i have stuck to doom dogmatic positions for too long and it's time to ban the -- >> this is the importance. the nra is built on my
and it's not reality and the nra and the leadership of the nra is built on myth. i would not have guessed that anybody who of diminished credibility could do more than what wayne lapierre did friday. average folks like cory said, average folks know you have to do something about this and know how comprehensive. i live in texas. i own five guns and all the folks i associate with when you go out hunting you take your guns and you put them if a safe and everybody goes to bed. it's the wild west...
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and i think there are a lot of nra members who agree. i think wayne lapierre today is out of step with america, out of step with newtown, but i think he's out of step with a lot of his members and i hope the whole world saw that. >> he also mentioned a mental health database. beyond the possible inkbringment on rights that may have, that doesn't get around the loophole that gun show sales have because they often can do without background checks. >> one of the most absurd parts of his statement today is his insistence that we have a registry for people who mental illness. if you're treated for depression, all of a sudden you're on a registry. at the same time, the nra has opposed a gun registry so we can track who has these weapons. so the nra says we want to know who has a history of mental illness, but we frankly don't want to know whether those individuals or anybody else has a gun. it just doesn't make any sense. what this stunt was today was a smoke screen to try to distract people from where this country is moving. this country is m
and i think there are a lot of nra members who agree. i think wayne lapierre today is out of step with america, out of step with newtown, but i think he's out of step with a lot of his members and i hope the whole world saw that. >> he also mentioned a mental health database. beyond the possible inkbringment on rights that may have, that doesn't get around the loophole that gun show sales have because they often can do without background checks. >> one of the most absurd parts of...
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in washington, the nra again declined to comment on the debate, but there were signs the sandy hook massacre has eroded some of the nra's influence on capitol hill. >> as your senator, i'll protect our second amendment rights. >> reporter: west virginia senator joe manchin, a lifelong nra member said he's rethinking his own positions. >> i don't know of anybody that goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know anybody that needs those types of multiple clips as far as ammunition. >> reporter: and former republican congressman joe scarborough, now an msnbc host, also reversed himself on gun control. >> politicians can no longer be allowed to defend the status quo. they must instead be forced to defend our children. >> reporter: but at least one texas republican continues to defend the right of americans to own assault weapons. >> it ensures against the tyranny of the government. >> reporter: amid the talk of gun control, gun sales have picked up. in portland, just a week after a gunman killed two in an area mall. >> yesterday was the biggest day we've ever done in 20 years. today
in washington, the nra again declined to comment on the debate, but there were signs the sandy hook massacre has eroded some of the nra's influence on capitol hill. >> as your senator, i'll protect our second amendment rights. >> reporter: west virginia senator joe manchin, a lifelong nra member said he's rethinking his own positions. >> i don't know of anybody that goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know anybody that needs those types of multiple clips as far as...
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he also received an "f" rating from the nra. he acknowledged that gun legislation alone would not solve the problem. >> we know this is a complex issue that stirs deeply-held passions and political divides. as i said on sunday night, there's no law or set of laws that can prevent every senseless act of violence in our society. we're going to need to work on making access to mental health care at least as easy as access to a gun. we need to look more closely at a culture that all too often glorifies guns and violence. and any actions we must take must begin inside the home and inside our hearts. but the fact that this problem is complex can no longer be an excuse for doing nothing. >> later in that same press conference, president obama offered a sharp response when he was asked why his administration has mostly stayed away from the subject of gun control until now. >> this is not the first issue -- the first incident of horrific gun violence of your four years. where have you been? >> well, here's where i've been, jake. i've bee
he also received an "f" rating from the nra. he acknowledged that gun legislation alone would not solve the problem. >> we know this is a complex issue that stirs deeply-held passions and political divides. as i said on sunday night, there's no law or set of laws that can prevent every senseless act of violence in our society. we're going to need to work on making access to mental health care at least as easy as access to a gun. we need to look more closely at a culture that all...
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the republicans are owned by the nra. and the democrats are literally intimidated into submission, and no one seems to care that guns are unrestricted. >> eliot: john, you have laid out both just now and in many of your articles reasons smart moderate proposals that you would think gun owners such as you could agree to. and one of the political questions consequently that mystifies me is why does the nra have such a monopoly of power when it comes to the gun issue. if you look at the polling data, most americans support a background check. and most americans are with you supporting the reasoned efforts to prevent guns from falling into the hands of the wrong people. why is the republican congress and frankly i shouldn't say it that way. why are so many afraid to raise their voice on this issue. why is there such so cowardice on this issue. >> money. a big wall street equity firm are buying up gun companies. wall street hates regulation and the only product in america not regulated is the real begun. toy guns and teddy bea
the republicans are owned by the nra. and the democrats are literally intimidated into submission, and no one seems to care that guns are unrestricted. >> eliot: john, you have laid out both just now and in many of your articles reasons smart moderate proposals that you would think gun owners such as you could agree to. and one of the political questions consequently that mystifies me is why does the nra have such a monopoly of power when it comes to the gun issue. if you look at the...
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does the nra have disproportionate power? you argued a moment ago they didn't have the power they once had in the presidential election. >> i'll give you an example. i'm not a kind of person to sit back and say, you know, the world is getting worse for my kids, and when i'm gone i don't care about their lives. i do care about their lives. i'm going to do everything i can while i'm alive to make the world a better place for my kids but also for society, and take a look one of the things they decided to do in this last election was to support some candidates that were running against those that had great records with the nra, where the nra was putting their money into one side. i decided to put my money into the other sigh. >> joe baca in california, we won four out of seven where the nra supported every one of those four, and we won with a small amount of money. there is this myth that the nra is so powerful. you go back to what happened back when the democrats lost after the assault weapons ban. i don't know that the two are
does the nra have disproportionate power? you argued a moment ago they didn't have the power they once had in the presidential election. >> i'll give you an example. i'm not a kind of person to sit back and say, you know, the world is getting worse for my kids, and when i'm gone i don't care about their lives. i do care about their lives. i'm going to do everything i can while i'm alive to make the world a better place for my kids but also for society, and take a look one of the things...
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nra positions. in 2009, the nra pushed through laws relaxing the ability to carry guns on amtrak. i will admit i don't understand the need for that at all and new laws relaxing gun bans in national parks. what can we expect the nra to go along with? >> in louisiana they pushed a law to allow people to carry guns in churches. the bishop put the stop to that. look, they're very powerful group. no question about it. and they put a lot of stuff through and a lot of people not just the congress but state legislators are mortified for these guys and for good reason. they send out a lot of mail and people follow them. i think the vice president was instrumental in passing the assault weapon ban before. he knows this. he is a good man to head up this task force but he will be in for a heck of a fight them play pretty tough. it is not an easy thing to get done here. >> what should the nra say? he is coming out and talking tomorrow. is it safe to assume he will say look, we do support some kind of change. som
nra positions. in 2009, the nra pushed through laws relaxing the ability to carry guns on amtrak. i will admit i don't understand the need for that at all and new laws relaxing gun bans in national parks. what can we expect the nra to go along with? >> in louisiana they pushed a law to allow people to carry guns in churches. the bishop put the stop to that. look, they're very powerful group. no question about it. and they put a lot of stuff through and a lot of people not just the...
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the nra has blood on its hands. the nra has blood on its hands. shame on the nra. ban assault weapons now!. ban assault weapons now!. nra -- ban assault weapons now. >> mr. laperriere what is reaction to the protests? what is your react shun to that? >> rather than face, rather than face their own moral failing, the media demonized lawful gun owners, amplify their cries for more laws and fill the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking. that only delay meaningful action and all but guaranty but the next atrocity is only a news cycle away. the media calls semiautomatic firearms, machine guns. they claim these civilian semiautomatic firearms are used by the military. they tell us that the .223 round is one of the most powerful rifle calibers when all of these claims are factually untrue. they don't know what they're talking about. worse, they perpetuate the dangerous notion that one more gun ban or one more law imposed on peaceable, lawful people will protect us. where 20,000 other laws have failed. as brave and heroic and as self-sacrificing as tho
the nra has blood on its hands. the nra has blood on its hands. shame on the nra. ban assault weapons now!. ban assault weapons now!. nra -- ban assault weapons now. >> mr. laperriere what is reaction to the protests? what is your react shun to that? >> rather than face, rather than face their own moral failing, the media demonized lawful gun owners, amplify their cries for more laws and fill the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking. that only delay meaningful...
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nra arm school guards. lobbying groups call the arm and trade guards in schools on the same page as the memorial held for the hospice nurse work killed earlier this month. obama offers up kerry as top diplomat. the "los angeles times" has the front page story moviegoing as an endurance test. about how movies like "the hobbit" are epic lengths and smaller theaters say that hurts their profits. >>> president obama's in hawaii today where he and the first family will spend christmas. but the president says he will return to the white house after the holiday to continue working on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. joining me now, white house editor from politico, rachel smolkin. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> holiday red there, rachel. i will begin with you. is there any realistic timetable where a deal gets done beforian 1? look at the calendar. >> there's a realistic timetable but not an optimistic timetable. not a lot of holiday cheer going on in the nation's capital. after the stunning is heback sp
nra arm school guards. lobbying groups call the arm and trade guards in schools on the same page as the memorial held for the hospice nurse work killed earlier this month. obama offers up kerry as top diplomat. the "los angeles times" has the front page story moviegoing as an endurance test. about how movies like "the hobbit" are epic lengths and smaller theaters say that hurts their profits. >>> president obama's in hawaii today where he and the first family will...
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the nra had a respectful statement. i think a lot of people showing respect on this. >> feel something may be be happening. >> feel some grown-ups, maybe. there are, of course, exceptions. >> there are a few. we have mike barnicle with us. you're not an exception. beautiful piece in "the daily news" today. we'll read that in must read. thank you very much. former treasury officials. mark ratner is with us as well. he has a must read. i'm serious. >> beautiful. >> also in washington, washington anchor for "bbc world news america" katty kay. >> no pieces, sorry. >> you'll write one next time. thank you. so we've got a lot to get to this morning. >> a lot to talk about today. >> those exceptions, what are you talking about? >> just in the conversation about everything you thought there were two exceptions. >> rick perry, governor of texas, and -- >> is it bob -- >> they said we need to -- we need to arm teachers. >> we have to think about it. >> somebody in the school with a gun. >> guns in school. that's great. you know w
the nra had a respectful statement. i think a lot of people showing respect on this. >> feel something may be be happening. >> feel some grown-ups, maybe. there are, of course, exceptions. >> there are a few. we have mike barnicle with us. you're not an exception. beautiful piece in "the daily news" today. we'll read that in must read. thank you very much. former treasury officials. mark ratner is with us as well. he has a must read. i'm serious. >> beautiful....
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shame on the nra. >> one of the protesters led away after disrupting the nra speech, calling for armed guards in schools, says the group has too much influence over elected officials, and that's not all she's saying. she'll join us live. f year agai. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. >>> right now in the newsroom, the opening bell rang at the stock exchange. stocks will close early, 1:00 eastern for the holiday. if you're wondering who's ringing the bell, these are the 12 festive dancers from the monte carlo. i wish they'd ring the bell every day, don't you? onto the news. >>> u.s. senator michael crapo is apologizing after being arrested and charged with driv
shame on the nra. >> one of the protesters led away after disrupting the nra speech, calling for armed guards in schools, says the group has too much influence over elected officials, and that's not all she's saying. she'll join us live. f year agai. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get...
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does the nra have disproportionate power? you argued a moment ago they didn't have the power they once did in a presidential election. >> i'll give you a good example. i'm not the kind of person to sit back and say, you know, the world is getting worse for my kids, and i'm gone, i don't care about their lives. i do care about their lives. i'm going to do everything while i'm alive to make the world a better place for my kids but also for society. and take a look. one of the things i decided to do in the last election was to support some candidates that were running against those that had great records with the nra, where the nra was putting their money into one side. i decided to put my money into the other side. >> joe baca in california, one of the democrats that you supported? >> we won four out of seven -- four out of seven where the nra supported every one of those four and we won with a small amount of money. there is this myth that the nra is so powerful. you go back to what happened back when the democrats lost after
does the nra have disproportionate power? you argued a moment ago they didn't have the power they once did in a presidential election. >> i'll give you a good example. i'm not the kind of person to sit back and say, you know, the world is getting worse for my kids, and i'm gone, i don't care about their lives. i do care about their lives. i'm going to do everything while i'm alive to make the world a better place for my kids but also for society. and take a look. one of the things i...
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and then the nra comes back to its fund raising. the people concerned with the gun horrors lose interest. how do you sustain a balanced look at gun control and gun ownership in this society. >> i think that because we have to keep that message out there, all of the time, and not wait for a tragedy like this that happened. >> when you think ablt it, a couple of weeks ago we had a shooting with an nfl player. one of the commentators. he couldn't believe the hate mail he got. he couldn't believe how people came down after him. that's why people are afraid to speak out. they're afraid of the nra. they're afraid of the large lobbyists. and that's the same thing, chris, as the members of congress. whether republican or democrat, you see that that they cow behind and not getting anything done instead of standing up. they're afraid they're going to lose their next election. if we can save a whole bunch of lives, isn't that what we're supposed to be in congress for? it's not taking away the right of someone to own a gun. >> next up, you were
and then the nra comes back to its fund raising. the people concerned with the gun horrors lose interest. how do you sustain a balanced look at gun control and gun ownership in this society. >> i think that because we have to keep that message out there, all of the time, and not wait for a tragedy like this that happened. >> when you think ablt it, a couple of weeks ago we had a shooting with an nfl player. one of the commentators. he couldn't believe the hate mail he got. he...
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here's a question about the nra. the nra becomes this behemoth in individuals. i wonder how much that helps the nra themselves. if almost everybody is complicit in saying the nra wants you no know they're powerful. is there a self-fulfilling prophesy about the power of the nra? >> well, in my opinion, there is. if you actually look at the courts across this country where you have a number of lawyers that take pro bono, going into court, fighting things that are nra, going in on local issues, we're winning on that side. that never gets sent to the paper. >> right. >> so, again, you know, it's this myth out there. when the supreme court came out and said a person had a right to own a gun, i'm saying to myself, okay, that issue is off the table now. you have a right to own a gun. if you look at any literature that the nra puts out or any e-mails that they put out. what does it say? they're coming to take your guns away. so you have people that don't follow a subject as closely as we do. everybody out there, hunters, especially, even the police officers who think th
here's a question about the nra. the nra becomes this behemoth in individuals. i wonder how much that helps the nra themselves. if almost everybody is complicit in saying the nra wants you no know they're powerful. is there a self-fulfilling prophesy about the power of the nra? >> well, in my opinion, there is. if you actually look at the courts across this country where you have a number of lawyers that take pro bono, going into court, fighting things that are nra, going in on local...
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that's not what the nra is cog. they want almost everybody to be able to carry almost everywhere and the disasters ensuing from that approach are adding up. they end up in things like connecticut. >> mark and steve, joining us by phone, thanks to both of you, appreciate your time. our third story out front, a blizzard that hammered the midwest may be winding down, but it is causing travel holiday headaches to ramp up. alexandria steele has more on just how rough travel could get this evening and over the weekend. >> good evening, soledad. it has been incredibly tough travel and tonight is no exception. are you looking at the 6,000 aircraft that are currently in the sky above us trying to get home for the holidays. certainly a lot better than the over 500 airport delays and cancelations and aircraft cancelations we had yesterday. so things are moving tonight although we have had delays, especially in the northeast. la guardia and newark and boston have been two of the big areas that we have seen delays between one an
that's not what the nra is cog. they want almost everybody to be able to carry almost everywhere and the disasters ensuing from that approach are adding up. they end up in things like connecticut. >> mark and steve, joining us by phone, thanks to both of you, appreciate your time. our third story out front, a blizzard that hammered the midwest may be winding down, but it is causing travel holiday headaches to ramp up. alexandria steele has more on just how rough travel could get this...
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what do you expect the nra to say today? >> yeah, i don't think we know what they're going to say, and i don't think it's the right thing to kind of just speculate. i think we should talk about what we do know, which is that the overwhelming majority of americans, including the overwhelming majority of gun owners and nra members support sensible restrictions. you know, you just showed a poll that said the number of americans that support strict gun control, that's not the conversation. the conversation is around specific measures like criminal background checks on all gun sales. 74% of nra members support criminal background checks on all gun sales and our message today is really to them, to the nra members, you know, like president obama said, nra members are mothers and fathers, too, and we all grieve over this terrible tragedy and we all grieve over the 32 to 34 murders that happen every single day in our country, and there are things we can do about it and that's what we hope the nra is going to focus on as well, but it'
what do you expect the nra to say today? >> yeah, i don't think we know what they're going to say, and i don't think it's the right thing to kind of just speculate. i think we should talk about what we do know, which is that the overwhelming majority of americans, including the overwhelming majority of gun owners and nra members support sensible restrictions. you know, you just showed a poll that said the number of americans that support strict gun control, that's not the conversation....
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but we can let them know that we mourn with them. >> and while opponents protested the nra, the nra told nbc news it will not comment until the facts are thoroughly known. they deactivated their facebook page on sasht after celebrating getting to 1.7 million fans during the week, by the way. so it's the gun owners of america, a gun rights group to the right of the nra that's filling the void. the group's executive director, larry pratt, told "hardball"'s chris matthews, the sandy hook tragedy could have been averted if the teachers had been harmed. >> we've said, no, no, no, no, there's something really special and who knows what about those schools and maybe the teachers can't be trusted with a gun there. >> would this be a less free country if you couldn't have an assault rifle? >> well yb away. >> wait a minute, wait a minute. >> and finally in some other news, we may be closer to a deal on the fiscal cliff than ever before and it may come down to selling any deal that boehner and obama strike to their respective rank and file. today, boehner will meet with house republicans after mak
but we can let them know that we mourn with them. >> and while opponents protested the nra, the nra told nbc news it will not comment until the facts are thoroughly known. they deactivated their facebook page on sasht after celebrating getting to 1.7 million fans during the week, by the way. so it's the gun owners of america, a gun rights group to the right of the nra that's filling the void. the group's executive director, larry pratt, told "hardball"'s chris matthews, the...
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the nra refused to take questions during a media statement last week, but today the ceo of the nra is responding to critics on "meet the press" after calling for armed police officers to be posted at every school in the u.s. >> there have been gass where armed guards have not prevented this kind of massacre and carna carnage. you would concede that point, wouldn't you? >> i would say if i'm a mom or dad dropping my child off at school i'd feel a whole lot safer with these great men and women on police forces -- >> you have to concede it may not work. >> nothing is perfect, david. >> joining me now andy sullivan and contributing editor for "newsweek" and the daily beast, eleanor clift. welcome to both of you. >> thank you. >> eleanor, you saw that exchange with the nra ceo wayne lapierre not conceding anything. how tough is this going to be for president obama to get gun-control legislation passed in congress and will that happen? >> it's going to be tough but it can happen. you know, it took ten years between the attempt on president reagan's life in 1980, more than ten years, for the
the nra refused to take questions during a media statement last week, but today the ceo of the nra is responding to critics on "meet the press" after calling for armed police officers to be posted at every school in the u.s. >> there have been gass where armed guards have not prevented this kind of massacre and carna carnage. you would concede that point, wouldn't you? >> i would say if i'm a mom or dad dropping my child off at school i'd feel a whole lot safer with these...
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. >> i had an nra rating of "a." you know, enough is enough. i'm the father of three daughters, this weekend, they all said, dad, you know, how can this go on? >> the republicans are going to have to figure out. i mean, do they wapnt to be the party and this is what it's going to boil down to. this is the world they live in. do they want to be seen two years from now, four years from now, as the party of glocks. >> today, in "daily news." 9 title of "blood on your hands." when you hear joe manchin and joe scarborough talking about the party of glocks. are you worried, we need to bring up violent video games and hollywood as well. is the reinterpretation, the modern day and that people have access to assault weapons? >> you know what is also disturbing, thomas, people s, d republicans -- here we have a town that was controlled in by democrats, the white house for two years. and nothing took place. for the partisans in our country to already start injecting politics in here, that saddens me further. now, we have to remember connecticut has the fi
. >> i had an nra rating of "a." you know, enough is enough. i'm the father of three daughters, this weekend, they all said, dad, you know, how can this go on? >> the republicans are going to have to figure out. i mean, do they wapnt to be the party and this is what it's going to boil down to. this is the world they live in. do they want to be seen two years from now, four years from now, as the party of glocks. >> today, in "daily news." 9 title of...
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this is nra members. 57% of the nra members believe that everyone who wants to buy a gun should have to pass a criminal background check. 71% of nra members support banning people on the terrorist watch list from purchasing guns. those are not things that are true of american law right, which is amazing. if you are on the freaking terrorist watch list, you can buy a gun in america. if we're going to get past this almost hysterical fear of trying to do anything at all on gun rights, if we're going to try to puncture the myth that anything to reform or rationalize gun laws is absolutely politically impossible as a categorical thing, what would happen if we just started at the edges? what would happen if we just started even members of the nra say they want from national gun laws? because they want a hell of a lot more than we've got right now. the organization they are a member of may not admit that, but when you poll their members, even they want improvements. could we at least start with what nra members want? joining us now is congresswoman carolyn mccarthy. she is a democrat of new
this is nra members. 57% of the nra members believe that everyone who wants to buy a gun should have to pass a criminal background check. 71% of nra members support banning people on the terrorist watch list from purchasing guns. those are not things that are true of american law right, which is amazing. if you are on the freaking terrorist watch list, you can buy a gun in america. if we're going to get past this almost hysterical fear of trying to do anything at all on gun rights, if we're...
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the nra says that's what will clean our children safe. we'll talk to one former governor who took on that gun lobby. >> thank you and god bless america. you guys are the best. thank you so much. >> then details out today about mitt romney's not so enthusiastic approach to running for the white house and what it might say about the will challenges ahead for the gop. good afternoon. all that and more ahead. >>> first, lawmakers are down to the wire on avoiding the fiscal cliff. will they get a deal done before the end of the year, president obama is on vacation and so is house speaker john boehner, but here's what they said before they left. >> call me a hopeless optimist, but i actually still think we can get it done. >> of course, hope springs eternal, and i know we have it in us to come together and to do the right thing. >> for more on all this i want to bring in nbc's white house correspondent kristen welker who is traveling with the president in hawaii. she joins us now from honolulu. hey, kristen. the president and the speaker are st
the nra says that's what will clean our children safe. we'll talk to one former governor who took on that gun lobby. >> thank you and god bless america. you guys are the best. thank you so much. >> then details out today about mitt romney's not so enthusiastic approach to running for the white house and what it might say about the will challenges ahead for the gop. good afternoon. all that and more ahead. >>> first, lawmakers are down to the wire on avoiding the fiscal...
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what the nra says is we've been training people in firearm safety for years. we are willing to help train armed security people if the school districts can come up with the money. they've trained about 10,000 of these people already, so there are other organizations. >> pete williams, thank you, sir. good to see you. >> i want to bring in now david winston, advisor to speaker john boehner, gop stat gist. it's good to is have you here. >> the assault ban does it get before and it won't work in the future. >> we hear that and we know the position of the nra. is any logical conversation about trying to move forward on legislation kind of doomed out of the gate? >> if we actually allow ours to think that even the suggestion of the nra about arming guards in schools is something to be taken seriously. i hear pete williams talking about it as if it's even something that could be thinkable. look, just this morning you are reporting these firefighters getting shot. are we going to arm every fire station, every crew that goes out? are they going to have armed guards fo
what the nra says is we've been training people in firearm safety for years. we are willing to help train armed security people if the school districts can come up with the money. they've trained about 10,000 of these people already, so there are other organizations. >> pete williams, thank you, sir. good to see you. >> i want to bring in now david winston, advisor to speaker john boehner, gop stat gist. it's good to is have you here. >> the assault ban does it get before and...
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an assault weapons -- >> and a majority of nra members, katie, nra members are fine with background checks. what is wrong with saying let's just make sure we know who's buying guns. >> give me your final thought on this. you may wind up voting or may not. where do you think we ought to go first priority? >> well, i'm glad the president has set up a commission to bring everybody's thoughts together about this. because it's clear from debate we just heard -- >> cabinet officers, not national -- his cabinet officers. >> he should expand the circle to include representatives of all the groups that have been affected most profoundly by this. everybody's affected by it. but there are concentric circles within a society that we have to think about. you've talked about the individual and about the family and about the community and it is -- the society -- all of these play a role, and our society is unique in that way. and our liberties are unique. so we really do rely on those circles, the community, the family, and the individual. >> i'm for the right -- i'm for the right to bear arms, but i thi
an assault weapons -- >> and a majority of nra members, katie, nra members are fine with background checks. what is wrong with saying let's just make sure we know who's buying guns. >> give me your final thought on this. you may wind up voting or may not. where do you think we ought to go first priority? >> well, i'm glad the president has set up a commission to bring everybody's thoughts together about this. because it's clear from debate we just heard -- >> cabinet...
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the head of the nra renewed his call forearmed officers in schools. and the backlash against assault weapons is continuing. several stores in colorado are no longer selling them. one store owner said he didn't ever want to open a newspaper and find out something he had sold had been used in a tragedy like the one in newtown. the country is so divided on this issue. the polls suggest people want congress to take some action, if nothing more to close loopholes, perhaps ban some of the high capacity magazines. so you think something is going to happen, but you have to wonder if it has the votes in the house to get it passed. even that assault weapons ban from '94 to 2004, even when that passed in the '90s, it passed by two or three votes. so republicans now control the house. i don't know how anything gets through or if it is, it's a baby step. >> and as you heard from the nra, they don't seem to be budging on the issue, either. >> no. leavgun control alone. >>> now a major medical headline just out this morning, and it has to do with bullied, overweight
the head of the nra renewed his call forearmed officers in schools. and the backlash against assault weapons is continuing. several stores in colorado are no longer selling them. one store owner said he didn't ever want to open a newspaper and find out something he had sold had been used in a tragedy like the one in newtown. the country is so divided on this issue. the polls suggest people want congress to take some action, if nothing more to close loopholes, perhaps ban some of the high...